MAE F.A.Q.

Mechanical Engineering and Aerospace Engineering 

MAE FAQs and Curriculum Updates –
Important notices about new courses and updates to degree requirements

NEW AEROSPACE REQUIREMENT (effective Fall 2013) – MAE C150R or 161A

 

IMPACTED MAE LABS – New Effective Winter 2017

Effective Winter 2017 the following labs are now deemed impacted:
MECH&AE 157
MECH&AE 162D
MECH&AE 162E
MECH&AE M183B

This means students who are admitted to the course have a 2nd week drop deadline enforced, which is the deadline for impacted courses.
Please review HSSEAS enrollment policies and deadlines.
Please also review the wait list policy for MAE LAB Courses.

THE TECHNICAL BREADTH REQUIREMENT (TBR) AND HOW IT APPLIES TO AEROSPACE AND MECHANICAL ENGINEERING MAJORS


Students in catalog 2006 and thereafter
are required to satisfy the Technical Breadth Requirement (12 units).  Choose one area from an approved list and select three courses from that selected area. Click on the following link and select “Summary of Areas” for approved area list: Technical Breadth List.

Engineering Science Area flexibility with EE 100 and MSE 104:
Aerospace majors and Mechanical Engineering majors may apply EL ENGR 100 and MAT SCI 104 towards the Engineering Science Area.  Please note you are not double counting EE 100 and Mat Sci 104.  Instead you are moving EE 100 and MAT SCI 104 from required department courses to the technical breadth requirement in Engineering Science.  This means you would select one more course from the Engineering Science Area list to complete the three courses required.  You can then replace EE 100 and Mat Sci 104 with additional major electives from the available list of electives.  Or via petition at 6426 BH you may substitute any technical elective from HSSEAS (petition BEFORE you take the course).

Which one should you follow?
The department does not endorse the Engineering Science TBA over other TBA’s, but does want to point out the flexibility of the Engineering Science TBA. in regards to your major elective courses.  In particular, this option enables you to gain more depth within your AE/or ME major should you wish to do so.

Technical Breadth Requirement (standard) vs. Engineering Science flexibility:

Required Department Courses
Technical Breadth Requirement
Major Electives Required
(major field electives are listed in the HSSEAS catalog for your major).
Standard(total 7) EE 100,
MSE 104(2 courses)
3 courses from an
approved TBR list(3 courses)
2 major electives required from list for
your AE or ME major(2 courses)
Engineering Science TBA
flexibility(total 7)
EE 100,
MSE 104(2 courses)
EE 100 and MSE 104
(already satisfied)
plus 1 more from
Engineering Science TBA(1 course)
2 major field electives from the
list of electives for your major (ME or AE)-plus-
2 additional major field electives from the list for your major (ME or AE) or via petition at 6426 BH another technical course from HSSEAS.(4 courses)

MECH&AE 194 (Research Group) and MECH&AE 199 (Directed Research) Course Credit Policy

All engineering 194s and 199s are initially approved for excess units.
To review course credit policy for AE and ME majors please visit the  194/199 policy page  Consult with your HSSEAS Academic Counselor if you have any questions regarding 194/199 credit.

THE ENROLLMENT SYSTEM STATES I DO NOT MEET A COURSE REQUISITE

The MECH&AE Department enforces all requisites for their undergraduate
courses.  Please follow enrollment instructions outlined at the main OASA FAQ page for assistance.

 

FULL/CLOSED COURSES – The MECH&AE course I need is full, what do I do?

If a MECH&AE course is full, please tell us!  You should submit the Enrollment Consideration Request (ECR) form.

To take full advantage of the ECR, you should be submitting this as soon as you are unable to enroll because a class is full or the wait list is full.  Do not submit if there are still wait list spots.  Submitting a request via the ECR helps OASA measure demand and allows our office to work directly with the MAE dept. to see how many more people can possibly be accommodated.  It also puts you on a list so that if there are any course updates, everyone on the survey will be notified and have insider information as to when new sections are opening, etc.  Please note that filling this out is not a guarantee of enrollment, or that the department will be able to accommodate your request, but it gives you your best chance.  Be sure you enroll and plan alternate course options available to you in case you do not get in.

 

WAITLIST-  The course I want is wait listed, what does it mean?

If a MECH&AE course is on the schedule as wait listed then YES, it is being offered.  Students who are interested in the course should definitely secure a spot on the wait list for their best chance of enrollment.  NOTE that many of the MECH&AE lab courses are wait list only due to very limited lab space.
A wait list allows the department to give priority to graduating seniors if demand exceeds availability.  If the demand does not exceed available space then everyone on the wait list will most likely be enrolled into the course.  Students who are interested in the course should secure a spot on the wait list for best chance of enrollment.  If all wait list spots become full then your next course of action is to utilize the Enrollment Consideration Request Form (ECR).

Please be aware of MAE LABS that are now impacted.

SENIOR CAPSTONE DESIGN COURSE INFORMATION FOR ME MAJORS – MECH&AE 162D & MECH&AE 162E

The senior capstone design courses for Mechanical Engineers are MECH&AE 162D  and MECH&AE 162E.  The two courses should be taken in the last two quarters of a student’s program and students are expected to take them in sequence back-to-back.  The requisites are enforced, which means students must complete them prior to enrollment in the senior design courses.

MECH&AE 162D “Mechanical Engineering Design I” requisites are:
MECH&AE 94
and MECH&AE 156A (or MECH&AE 183A or M183B)
and MECH&AE 162A (or MECH&AE 171A).

MECH&AE 162E “Mechanical Engineering Design II” requisite is:
MECH&AE 162D

MECH&AE 162D and MECH&AE 162E MUST BE TAKEN IN SEQUENCE, BACK-TO-BACK, AND STUDENTS ARE EXPECTED TO STAY WITH THE SAME TEAM IN THE SAME SECTION FOR BOTH QUARTERS.  This means, whichever lab section you have in Winter, you MUST stick with it in Spring (NO EXCEPTIONS)

Students are strongly encouraged to complete MAE 157 and MAE 183A (or M183B) well before taking MAE 162D/E in order to avoid potential conflicts and to lessen their workload. Spring 2018, Summer 2018, Fall 2018, and Winter 2019 degree candidates should plan to enroll in MAE 162D for Winter 2018 and
MAE 162E for Spring 2018 as follows:

There will be TWO Lectures of MAE 162D/E as follows, please secure ONE lecture and ONE lab.

MECH&AE Class Offerings: Whichever lab section you enroll in Winter quarter, you MUST stay in the same section for Spring quarter NO EXCEPTIONS.

Winter 2018 Spring 2018
Lecture 1 MAE 162D Lec 1 Monday 2:00PM-3:50PM 162E Monday 2:00PM-3:50PM
Labs Lab 1A (Wed 2:00PM-5:50PM) Lab 1A (Wed 2:00PM-5:50PM)
Lab 1B (Thurs 2:00PM-5:50PM) Lab 1B (Thurs 2:00PM-5:50PM)
Lecture 2 MAE 162D Monday 12:00PM-1:50PM MAE 162E Monday 12:00PM-1:50PM
 Labs Lab 2A (Wed 10:00AM-1:50PM) Lab 2A (Wed 10:00AM-1:50PM)
Lab 2B (Thurs 10:00AM-1:50PM) Lab 2B (Thurs 10:00AM-1:50PM)

Since you will be in the same lab at the same times for both quarters you must pay attention to conflicts. Students who have not completed labs (ex: MAE 157 or MAE 183A or MAE M183B) and key required courses please be aware of conflicts in those lab courses with the 162D and 162E lab times for W18 and Sp18.

Possible Conflicts Winter 2018 Spring 2018 *tentative schedule
MAE 105D MW 2:00PM-3:50PM
(conflicts with 162D, Lec 1,Lab 1A)
Not offered
MAE 133A TR 8:00AM-9:50AM (No Conflict) MW 8:00AM-9:50AM (No conflict)
MAE 156A TR 10:00AM-1:50PM
(conflicts with MAE 162D, Lab 2B)
TR 8:00AM-9:50AM (No conflict)
MAE 157.1 MW 2:00PM-5:50PM
(conflicts with 162D, Lecture 1. choose 162D, Lecture 2)
TR  2:00PM-5:50PM
(conflict with 162D/E, Lab 1B)
MAE 157.2 TR 2:00PM-5:50PM
(conflicts with MAE 162D, Lab 1B)
MW 2:00PM-5:50PM
(conflict with 162D/E Lecture 1)
MAE 157.3 TR 10:00AM-1:50PM
(conflicts with MAE 162D, Lab 2B)
No third lab offered
MAE 162A Not offered TR 10:00AM-11:50AM
(
conflict with 162D/E, Lab 2B)
MAE 183A Lec Lec MW 11:00AM-12:15PM
(conflicts with 162D, Lec 2 – choose 162D, Lecture 1)
Lec MW 11:00AM-12:15PM
(conflicts with 162D, Lec 2 – choose 162D, Lecture 1)
MAE 183A Lab Lab 1A M 2:00PM-5:50PM
(avoid, conflicts with 162D Lec 1)
Lab 1A M 2:00PM-5:50PM
(avoid, conflicts with Lec 1 and/or Lab 162E, Lec 1
MAE 183A Lab LAB 1B F 2:00PM-5:50PM
(Tentatively scheduled, no conflicts)
Lab 1B F 2:00PM-5:50PM
(no conflicts)
MAE 183A Lab Lab 1C T 2:00PM-5:50PM
(no conflicts)
Not offered
MAE M183B Lec Not offered MW 12:30PM-1:45PM
(conflicts with 162D/E, Lec 2 – choose 162D/E, Lecture 1)
MAE M183B Lab Not offered Lab 1A M 2:00PM-5:50PM
(avoid, conflicts with both lecture and/or lab of 162D/E)
MAE M183B Lab Not offered Lab 1B T  8:00AM-11:50AM (no conflict)
MAE M183B Lab Not offered Lab 1C W 2:00PM-5:00PM
(conflicts with 162D/E, Lab1A)
MAE 171A TR 12:00PM-1:50PM
(conflict with 162D, Lab 2B)
MW 12:00PM-1:50PM
(
conflict with 162D/E, Lecture 2)

With careful planning students should be able to avoid a conflict. If you have scheduling issues, please contact the MAE counselors IMMEDIATELY and please include your UCLA UID.

 

ELECTIVES – Where can I find a listing of courses that satisfy an AE or ME elective?

Students should refer to the HSSEAS catalog
announcement
 for the year they were admitted to the major to review the AE or ME elective list.  Additionally, students may log into DARS, run an audit and see a list of AE or ME electives.
AE Elective list (under construction)
ME Elective list (under construction)
 

MECH&AE M20 vs COM SCI 31

Effective Fall 2014-2015 Mechanical and Aerospace majors have the option of taking either Com Sci 31 (C++ programming) or MECH&AE M20 (MATLAB programming; same as CEE M20) to fulfill their programming requirement.  All Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering will eventually using Matlab in several upper division courses, therefore we recommend that you choose MECH&AE M20 for your programming requirement.  If you are additionally interested in C++ programming you can take COM SCI 31 and try to apply it as a Technical Breadth Requirement in the Engineering Science area OR the CS Tech Breadth area.  We advise you check-in with your OASA counselor to discuss if you have questions.

Students in catalog years 2013-2014 and prior do have the option to take MECH&AE M20 in place of CS 31.  For students who already completed CS 31, you may move CS 31 to be a Technical Breadth Requirement in the Engineering Science area OR the CS Tech Breadth area.  A petition may be necessary.  Please consult with a MAE counselor if you have questions about this.
 

 

MECH&AE C150R or MECH&AE 161A – NEW Aerospace requirement for students in the new 2013-2014 catalog

Effective the Fall 2013-2014 catalog and onward Aerospace majors must select one course from MECH&AE C150R (formerly 150R) “Rocket Propulsion Systems” or MECH&AE 161A “Introduction to Astronautics”.  For a complete list of all Aerospace requirements students should refer to the HSSEAS catalog announcement for the year they were admitted to the major.
Aerospace majors in the Fall 2012-2013 catalog and prior do have the option to take MECH&AE C150R.  .The department is allowing  catalogs prior to F13 the choice of 155 or 161A or 169A or C150R.  Please consult with a MAE counselor if you have questions about this requirement.
 

IF I AM AN AEROSPACE MAJOR, MAY I TAKE MECH&AE 157 INSTEAD OF REQUIRED COURSE MECH&AE 157S?

EFFECTIVE FALL 2016 – The MAE department has combined the Introductory Aerospace and Mechanical labs into ONE LAB – MAE 157.  So yes, AE majors take MAE 157.   Students in the 16-17 catalog must take 157.

If you are an AE student in a catalog prior to 16-17 you have the option to take MAE 157S or 157.  However, please note that 157S is no longer offered so plan on taking 157.

AE MAJORS – do NOT confuse 157 (Basic Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering Lab) with required 157A (Fluid Mechanics and Aerodynamics Laboratory)

MATH 33B vs MECH&AE 82 (formerly 182A) – effective 16-17

Effective Fall 2016-2017 catalog – Aerospace and Mechanical majors are no longer required to take Math 33B (Differential Equations).
Students in the 16-17 catalog should take MAE 82 after completing Math 33A.  MECH&AE 82 covers differential equations.  

Students following the 2016-2017 catalog and onward should have taken MECH&AE 82 and not Math 33B. Effective Fall 2017 MECH&AE 82 and MATH 33B are restricted; therefore you can not apply both toward degree requirements.

Students in catalog 2015-2016 and prior please read below:

  • If you did not take MATH 33B, you can switch to the new catalog and take MECH&AE 82 (formerly 182A) instead.  Submit catalog request here.
  • If  completed Math 33B prior to Fall 2017 and have not taken MECH&AE 82 (formerly 182A) you can switch to the new catalog and we will substitute Math 33B for MECH&AE 82.  Submit catalog request here.
  • If you completed Math 33B prior to Fall 2017 AND you completed MECH&AE 182A or 82 (formerly 182A) you may be able to switch to the new catalog and apply Math 33B to the TBR if the course is a requisite for an UD course already in your TBR area.  A petition for this may be necessary.  We recommend you speak to OASA counselor first to discuss the pros and cons of switching at this point.  Submit catalog request here.

 

I AM AN AEROSPACE OR MECHANICAL MAJOR FOLLOWING A CATALOG PRIOR TO 2006.  HOW DO I INTERPRET MY CREDIT?

If you are a student who for some reason is following a HSSEAS catalog prior to 2006 you are advised to meet with an Aerospace or Mechanical Engineering counselor in 6426 BH to review your credit.